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10 October 2008

Does Grandpa know that he fought for Gay Rights?

World War Two and Gay Rights

As I watched the interviews of old soldiers attending the dedication of the new World War II memorial on the Mall in Washington D.C., then listened to the speeches of actor Tom Hanks, ex-Senator Bob Dole, and President George W. Bush--followed by a Black woman (what else would it be?) singing The Star-Sangled Banner and God Bless America, and a Negro preacher saying a prayer--I wondered how many of those old soldiers agreed with the interpretation of the meaning of their generation's sacrifice that was made clear throughout the ceremony: that the Second World War was fought to end intolerance.

How many Americans really fought in the Second World War intending to serve any agenda beyond defense of their country, which they believed had been attacked without provocation? The American people were firmly against involvement in the European war, with as many as 85% indicating opposition despite years of propaganda about atrocities in Europe; clearly there would have been inadequate popular support for U.S. military intervention without the Pearl Harbor attack.

What would have been the reaction of this group recently flattered as "the Greatest Generation" if they had been told in 1942, not only that the attack on Pearl Harbor had been deliberately provoked, but that the purpose of their sacrifice, including the deaths of many young friends, was that their children and grandchildren should mix with Blacks and other races? How many would have served in the U.S. armed forces if they had been told that the war was being waged so that homosexuals could come out of the closet? Very few, I would wager; in fact I believe that emphasizing this fact in 1942 would have thoroughly crippled the U.S. war effort. Nonetheless, the ending of "discrimination" and "prejudice" is now being openly declared as the main purpose of the Second World War, and the Gay Rights movement is one aspect of that.

Here is an informative excerpt from the Wikipedia entry on Gay Rights:


"The gay rights movement arose in response to what many activists called discrimination and prejudice against homosexuals.

"One of the first gay rights activism movements was centered around Magnus Hirschfeld in pre-World War II Berlin, Germany. The gay rights movement in Germany was almost completely obliterated by Adolf Hitler and the Nazi movement (See Homosexuals in Nazi Germany and Night of the Long Knives.)

"In the United States, there were some initial steps toward a gay rights movement with the formation of the Mattachine Society and the publications of Phil Andros in the years immediately following World War II. Also during this time frame Sexual Behavior in the Human Male was published by Alfred Kinsey, a work which was one of the first to look scientifically at the subject of sexuality. Kinsey's incredible assertion, backed by a great deal of research, that approximately 10% of the population was homosexual, was in direct opposition to the prevailing beliefs of the time. Before its publication, homosexuality was not a topic of discussion, generally, but afterwards it began to appear even in mainstream publications such as Time Magazine, Life Magazine, and others.


"Despite the entry of the subject into mainstream consciousness very little actual change in the laws or mores of society was seen until the 1960s, the time of the "Sexual Revolution". This was a time of major social upheaval in many social areas, including views of sexuality.

"These works, along with other changes in society such as huge migrations to the cities following the War, began to build gay communities in urban centers, and gay people began to have a sense of themselves as a minority group rather than just a few isolated "inverts". While gay bars existed even in the early 20th century, they were very few.

"With the rise of the gay community, gay bars became more and more common, and the sense of gay identity strengthened during the 1950s and 1960s. Gay people became less and less accepting of their status as social outcasts and criminals. However, they had little or no political and social power until the late 1960s.

"However, the Stonewall riots of 1969 are considered to be the starting point for the modern gay rights movement, when all of these relatively underground changes reached a breaking point, and gay people began to organize on a large scale and demand legal and social recognition and equality."


The Gay Rights movement, just like the the Negro Rights movement, derives great impetus from the alleged moral precedents of the Second World War, and it is no coincidence that both have developed in the post-war period. The Gay Rights aspect of the World War Two legacy has been slower to develop because it had the disadvantage of being unable to cloak itself in Christianity, and has in fact depended to a large extent on the decay of traditional morality. Both Gay Rights and Negro Rights however erupted, not coincidentally, as the generation that grew up in the immediate postwar period and was schooled in the so-called lessons of World War II reached adulthood, in the 60s, a period when the word "fascist" was greatly in vogue as an insult on the lips of feminists, Communists, racemixers, and degenerates of every kind.

Norman Lear's sitcom All in the Family, a singularly destructive piece of anti-White and anti-normal propaganda that aired beginning in 1969 on the CBS television network, accurately reflects the conflict between the generation that fought in World War Two--represented unflatteringly by the character of Archie Bunker, who often spoke proudly of having fought in "WWII, the Big One"--and the tendencies that had developed in the aftermath of that war as a consequence of it. In the late 60s and early 70s this conflict of generations was often discussed, and many of the episodes of All in the Family likewise make abundantly clear that members of what is now called "the Greatest Generation" actually dreaded the kind of tolerant, anything-goes society with which we are currently saddled and for which they are now given stomach-turning credit. In fact they represented the kind of "intolerance" which they are now praised for fighting. Did they really understand in 1942 what cause they were serving?

Maybe that's a reason why so many of these old White men, after hearing the tolerance-pushing speeches of Hanks, Dole, and Bush, followed by the obligatory Black singer and a Negro preacher, say that they have a hard time accepting praise for what they did.

Original essay posted by Hadding on national-socialism.us May 31, 2004 05:30 PM

2 comments:

Alejandro Rodríguez said...

This post really disgusts me. I also support traditional morality, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with opposing racism and supporting the rights of Blacks and other ethnicities who for centuries were oppressed and treated unfairly, having been enslaved and forced into inhuman conditions. This repudiation of "race mixing" is also extremely disgusting. We are all humans, so what is wrong with a Black marrying a White? Color skin is nothing but the product of the geographic area you live in. It is no indicator that someone has lesser intelligence or is not a human being. In fact, imagine if you were born as a Black or a Jew, what would have happened? You don't choose what you are born as and for that reason it is very dumb to discriminate people based on that.

Conatus said...

I disagree with self righteous Rodriguez. I think if the men who invaded Europe knew that eventually their country would celebrate entry into Barney Franks bunghole they would have hesitated a bit more. If the men who were on the LST's at Normandy knew they would eventually be undergoing replacement immigration i do not think they would have fought with such valor. If the soldiers of WW2 knew their descendants would be the recipients of reverse racism and no one said anything about it, i doubt they would have fought the way they did.